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Posted Dec 27, 2012 - 11:18 AM

It looks vastly improved over 1.0 but I'm still getting a kind of "meh" feel.
I suppose I'd have to try it before commenting further.
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Posted Dec 27, 2012 - 11:23 AM

Looking and playing much better than the original.

Can't wait to see some gameplay on the Summoner class.
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Posted Dec 27, 2012 - 11:31 AM

The gameplay doesn't look fun. One has to be honest, it looks like a spammy 2004 mmorpg. Too much going on on-screen...I see no strategy other than spam.

It's saddening to see the gameplay that way when it could be much better. I will give it a chance but I'm not impressed.
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Posted Dec 27, 2012 - 1:57 PM

View PostGhastly, on Dec 27, 2012 - 11:31 AM, said:

The gameplay doesn't look fun. One has to be honest, it looks like a spammy 2004 mmorpg. Too much going on on-screen...I see no strategy other than spam.

It's saddening to see the gameplay that way when it could be much better. I will give it a chance but I'm not impressed.


I agree, although the graphics do look stunning, but that's not what matters. Hopefully there will be a flood of feed back and enough time to completely overhaul the combat system and make it fun :/
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Posted Dec 27, 2012 - 6:38 PM

View Post回し蹴り ★, on Dec 27, 2012 - 11:18 AM, said:

It looks vastly improved over 1.0 but I'm still getting a kind of "meh" feel.
I suppose I'd have to try it before commenting further.


Yeah same here, I'll give it a go first. I tried the original and it was horrible
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Posted Dec 27, 2012 - 7:27 PM

View PostGhastly, on Dec 27, 2012 - 11:31 AM, said:

The gameplay doesn't look fun. One has to be honest, it looks like a spammy 2004 mmorpg. Too much going on on-screen...I see no strategy other than spam.

It's saddening to see the gameplay that way when it could be much better. I will give it a chance but I'm not impressed.

Sadly spammy 2004 MMORPG is a step up. XD

I dunno, I assume the storyline is what keeps people playing. I guess it might be worth a go just on story alone?
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Posted Dec 28, 2012 - 2:10 AM

Well not every story based MMO does well, when the story ends people stop playing. If the developer gets it right and keeps releasing content episodically like the Walking Dead then that may work
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Posted Dec 28, 2012 - 11:47 PM

Realize that these are only videos to demonstrate the game is actually running somewhat properly in the alpha build. The developers are just doing the simplest things possible. Even the first version of FFXIV has combo-skills and movement, the boss gameplay looked nothing like this.

Have a little bit of faith in Yoshida, people. He's a man who deserves your respect even and so does SE to an extent, even if the project fails. Which I hope sincerely it doesn't as Square are really pouring their in-house team on this and Lightning Returns.

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Posted Dec 29, 2012 - 12:57 PM

I honestly don't care if they're trying. If they don't listen to fans I wouldn't care if the cease to exist. Square-Enix is digging themselves into their own grave, 100% on their own.
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Posted Dec 29, 2012 - 5:51 PM

But Yoshida is listening to fans on their own boards and such. He's one of the tightest developer-player base connection people out there and that's even bolstered by his love for MMOs. What is it from all that's been happening that has given you an indication that they haven't been listening?

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Posted Dec 29, 2012 - 6:25 PM

i played in the alpha the game runs a lot more smoothly now, also the game more enjoyable now do to the lack of a CPU devouring engine. the alpha didn't have a ton of content but it does have some new things in it i can't really tell you much more due to NDA. but its deffenately a different experience as for the comment about SE not listening to the players, they have been taking notes on what the players want and a large number of changes have occurred in fact the reason they scrapped the engine that 1.0 used is because that's what players wanted. so give it a chance.
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Posted Dec 30, 2012 - 10:26 AM

I have to admit, looking around the main site, this game does look rather promising. I'm looking forward to checking it out.
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Posted Dec 30, 2012 - 10:49 AM

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But Yoshida is listening to fans on their own boards and such. He's one of the tightest developer-player base connection people out there and that's even bolstered by his love for MMOs. What is it from all that's been happening that has given you an indication that they haven't been listening?


I don't think ghastly was necessarily referring just to Yoshida, the game does look infinitely better, but maybe he was referring to Squeenix in general? Just look at versus, there's been incredibly little info on it in years. Type-0, apparently fans have been desperate for an English port but it's been over a year. Then there's the fact that this company used to create masterpieces, but the last decent ff was 10 imo. I can't help but agree with previous comments saying that they're incredibly out of touch with their fan base.
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Posted Dec 30, 2012 - 11:08 AM

SE is almost as dead as Sonic in my eyes~
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Posted Dec 30, 2012 - 12:33 PM

Hoping to get into the upcoming beta, It should keep me busy until the next big thing comes.
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Posted Dec 30, 2012 - 1:11 PM

They're listening to the wrong fans. That gameplay looks bad. No one likes playing a spam spam spam game. The gameplay I've seen is full of magic flowing around, a bunch of spam attacks. That's not a fun a game. A fun game is one where you need to think.
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Posted Dec 30, 2012 - 1:32 PM

View PostGhastly, on Dec 30, 2012 - 1:11 PM, said:

They're listening to the wrong fans. That gameplay looks bad. No one likes playing a spam spam spam game. The gameplay I've seen is full of magic flowing around, a bunch of spam attacks. That's not a fun a game. A fun game is one where you need to think.


Is it too late to overhaul the battle system? :3
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Posted Dec 30, 2012 - 5:29 PM

View PostQuasar97, on Dec 30, 2012 - 1:32 PM, said:

Is it too late to overhaul the battle system? :3


A little too late for that, they would be pushed back at least six months
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Posted Dec 30, 2012 - 5:39 PM

View PostMizuki, on Dec 30, 2012 - 5:29 PM, said:

A little too late for that, they would be pushed back at least six months


I actually wouldn't care if they spent another year on it, I just wanna see it done well ( I never thought I'd say that about a game )
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Posted Dec 30, 2012 - 6:26 PM

View PostQuasar97, on Dec 30, 2012 - 5:39 PM, said:

I actually wouldn't care if they spent another year on it, I just wanna see it done well ( I never thought I'd say that about a game )


You would probably be flamed for saying this by anyone who subbed for the current version for the longest time. The new version is being delayed long enough and they're already aiming for a summer release. SE is still running a risk of failure while trying to save this game in such a competitive market..

This is SE. Their game will have the classical MMO formula. If you're a seasoned mmo player, you might be tired of it and that's fine. They already said they're going to be tweaking the battle dynamics throughout beta testing, but expecting them to revamp or completely overhaul a core game system just shows how unrealistic your expectations are for a game with such a troubled history that could have been scrapped just as easily.

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