[SmileForMe]

 Masataka, on Nov 21, 2011 - 5:38 AM, said:

i didn't say that as an excuse.don't twist my words ok man?anyway i'm Greek so i don't care if my english suc'k

You're using your language barrier, who someone else has, as an excuse for your grammar, so that people will not see it as an educational issue.

Masataka said:

you still going at it?no matter what you say you're not going to change my opinion..i will say it again: you have your opinions i have mine
you expect people to dominate in pvp after around 10 days of gameplay where half of them(i'm reffering to days since you tend to misunderstand things) maybe where in pve,lvl-up etc?hahahahahahahahaha
and lastly you misunderstand what i said and you start spouting every nonsense you could think of.you made assumptions of what i really wanted to say

as it seems you like to have the last word..here ya go i let you have it

....Well by your logic the classes shoudl be easy to play because translations are clear and dictate how things should be ran. You're right, this is probably in vain because you have too much pride to accept your inaccurate assumptions.

And no, it's not me with the problem, it's you. If you cannot manage to translate your thoughts in a comprehensible format, then why bother saying anything at all? You think parry is overpowered, and are positive this is a sign this class is favorited. And although I can't change your opinion, I can at least challenge the idea's you are trying to put in other players heads.

[Masataka]

 SmileForMe, on Nov 21, 2011 - 9:03 AM, said:

You're using your language barrier, who someone else has, as an excuse for your grammar, so that people will not see it as an educational issue.




....Well by your logic the classes shoudl be easy to play because translations are clear and dictate how things should be ran. You're right, this is probably in vain because you have too much pride to accept your inaccurate assumptions.

And no, it's not me with the problem, it's you. If you cannot manage to translate your thoughts in a comprehensible format, then why bother saying anything at all? You think parry is overpowered, and are positive this is a sign this class is favorited. And although I can't change your opinion, I can at least challenge the idea's you are trying to put in other players heads.

can't you read?are you blind?i said it clearly that i don't care if i do grammar mistakes in english etc.but it seems you don't get things with the first time so i will say it again: i'm Greek so i don't care if my english suc'k.got it now or want me to say it again..

will you relize sometime that people have each his own opinion?put it in your empty head already that i have other opinion than you..and i don't want to put in anyone head's ideas,you made that assumption on your own..i just said my opinion..we have democracy right?so i can say my opinion
again you misunderstand things and spouting nonsense..pfffffffffffff

the one with the problem is definitely you.why?cause you still continue going at it(the Parry thing)..i stop long ago and you still continue.when will you get over it and go on?

[Lithia]

I don't care where you come from, what you look like or how good your English is,
If we kindly ask you to stop the personal attacks and you don't
then you leave us no choice.

At that note, I hereby kindly ask to drop this issue and continue with the topic at hand.
Cheers.


- Lith. ...Re-track.

[SmileForMe]

With summon swords would you guys consider the blademaster a magic swordsman?

[Ghastly]

I just see summoning blades as a special ability. But at their core they're just swordsmen. Magic swordsman would be one that enchants his sword from start to end.

[RamenNoodles452]

Doubt it. It doesn't really seem to be any major part of their combat style. Like I see BMs pop in and out of it, you don't usually see BMs just stay in Summoned Sword form. It's more of a utility thing than anything else

[SmileForMe]

 RamenNoodles452, on Nov 22, 2011 - 3:20 PM, said:

Doubt it. It doesn't really seem to be any major part of their combat style. Like I see BMs pop in and out of it, you don't usually see BMs just stay in Summoned Sword form. It's more of a utility thing than anything else

That's why I really chose BM. Seeing the several types of summon swords and it's balance of PvE and PvP, I can see it's an extrememly versatile class.

["Z"]

Still, the play-style looks fun. I'm having issues either to go Blade Master or Assassin.

"Z"

[Ghastly]

 "Z", on Nov 24, 2011 - 11:48 AM, said:

Still, the play-style looks fun. I'm having issues either to go Blade Master or Assassin.

"Z"

Go both! Nothing wrong with leveling two classes equally at the same time. That's actually a great idea, you will eventually stick to one more than the other

[NoGrip]

It'll be hard to play any one of these classes and not be entertained. Each class has such a unique feel and approach to it. When this comes out for North America, I'm definitely not going to concern myself with the leveling madness that occurs in most MMORPGs. I'm going to set a level limit and then switch around. Right now I'm favoring Blade Master, but l agree with Ghastly and I may not necessarily play my Blade Master to "End Game" content.

As far as Summoned Swords form - the name magic swordsmen really made me cringe a little and I hope that's not a name that sticks with the blade masters.

[Masataka]

 Lithia, on Nov 21, 2011 - 9:45 AM, said:

I don't care where you come from, what you look like or how good your English is,
If we kindly ask you to stop the personal attacks and you don't
then you leave us no choice.

At that note, I hereby kindly ask to drop this issue and continue with the topic at hand.
Cheers.


- Lith. ...Re-track.

you may not care about my english etc but they made a big fuss over it and though i said i don't care about my english they still go at it.that pissed me off cause i don't use it as excuse since i don't care
i didn't "personal attack" to anyone.first words where question and the rest has nothing as "personal attack"..i'm a grown up and i talk things straight.i'm not gonna say "sorry sir for my bad english" or not reply at all..ofc i'll reply back
whatever

 RamenNoodles452, on Nov 22, 2011 - 3:20 PM, said:

Doubt it. It doesn't really seem to be any major part of their combat style. Like I see BMs pop in and out of it, you don't usually see BMs just stay in Summoned Sword form. It's more of a utility thing than anything else

just pop it in for the knockback+knowckdown,then do some auto attacks from range,use 1-2 skills,and when enemy/opponent gets closer pop it out

[SmileForMe]

 Masataka, on Nov 27, 2011 - 12:52 PM, said:

you may not care about my english etc but they made a big fuss over it and though i said i don't care about my english they still go at it.that pissed me off cause i don't use it as excuse since i don't care
i didn't "personal attack" to anyone.first words where question and the rest has nothing as "personal attack"..i'm a grown up and i talk things straight.i'm not gonna say "sorry sir for my bad english" or not reply at all..ofc i'll reply back
whatever

The other person you were attacking native language isn't english which you constantly remind us isn't yours either.

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can't you read?are you blind?

These are forms of attacks. It's indirectly assuming I don't have sufficient sight or the intelligence to comprehend what you're saying. And as you have said, 6 times now, even though your circumstances are not limited to only you, don't care about english. If you don't have enough respect to take the time to communicate your thoughts and force it upon everyone else to accomodate your so called "legitimate" handicap, why should we even both respecting what you have to say? Also, in the same post:

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put it in your empty head

Pretty much defines your suspension not only legitimate and your innocent act complete bull sh`it, but requested by no other than you. Let me guess, it's a jersey greek thing?

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.that pissed me off

Yes so throwing a temper tantrum and spouting out everyones dumb because they can't understand what you're trying to convey to them with "I suck so I won't try" effort english, is so what an Adult will do.

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just pop it in for the knockback+knowckdown,then do some auto attacks from range,use 1-2 skills,and when enemy/opponent gets closer pop it out

Yeah because there's no counters, blocks, range attacks, cool downs, or any form of vulnerability when you use summon swords as only a knock down effect. You don't know english that well yet your entire argument and class selection is a somewhat translated skill that we, well rather you, believe are litteral effects. You see the tree but you don't see the forest. If your statement was correct people would be making nothing but BM"s and using one of the most visual effects in the game as a knock down method.

Seriously?

This post has been edited by SmileForMe: Nov 27, 2011 - 1:29 PM

[Lithia]

Alright.
And with that last post I want this thread to go back to the topic which is was created for: The summoned swords.

I want this to be forgotten and I hope to just continue.
The necessary action has been taken regarding this issue.

I don't want to have to do any more of this,
and if I'm forced to...I don't think the person who'll receive the desciplining will be coming back here...

So with that, I hope we can just get this show back on the road.


- Lith. ...Final.

[SmileForMe]

 Masataka, on Nov 27, 2011 - 5:18 PM, said:

again your assumtions are wrong..when you use Summon Sword doesn't it do knockback+knockdown when you're in close range?while you opponent is in knockdown state can't you use few auto attacks and 1 skill?all i did was to say just a way,nothing more..but again you misunderstand things in wrong way,and you're the one spouting nonsense,not me
1:18


stop with all those assumption some time.its really bad habbit..BB from me

I'll make this as easy as understand as possible:

1) I am not assuming anything. It is fact that you can knock down opponents using summon swords. It is also fact that there are ways to retaliate against it. It isn't simply a character being defenseless

A) Summoning swords does leave you in a poor defense state, any form of counter could cripple you.

There is nothing misunderstood. What you can't seem to grasp is that it doesn't matter if you believe blademasters are considered class favorites, because the way they function is limited for everyone who hasn't played them.

Even the one example you used, he barely won. You understand little about the blademasters as it has been the third time you have been corrected on the very functions of the skills you blatantly regard as obvious hints of favoritism.

Its your assumptions and lack of effort to convey your thoughts that causes these problems, not me misunderstanding as I am now the 4th person to correct you.

Spoiler

Θα κάνω αυτό τόσο εύκολο όσο το καταλάβουν όσο το δυνατόν:

1) Δεν είμαι υποθέτοντας τίποτα. Είναι γεγονός ότι μπορείτε να
γκρεμίζω αντιπάλους χρησιμοποιώντας καλέσει σπαθιά. Είναι, επίσης,
γεγονός ότι υπάρχουν τρόποι για να προβεί σε αντίποινα εναντίον της. το
δεν είναι απλά ένας χαρακτήρας είναι ανυπεράσπιστοι

A) κλήση σπαθιά δεν σας αφήσει σε κακή άμυνα
κατάσταση, οποιαδήποτε μορφή μετρητή μπορεί να σας καθηλώσει.

Δεν υπάρχει τίποτα παρεξηγημένη. Αυτό που δεν μπορείτε να φαίνεται να
κατανοήσουν είναι ότι δεν έχει σημασία αν πιστεύετε
blademasters θεωρούνται φαβορί τάξη, επειδή η
τρόπος με τον οποίο η λειτουργία είναι περιορισμένη για τον καθένα που δεν έχει
τα έπαιξε.

Ακόμη και το παράδειγμα που χρησιμοποιήσατε, αυτός [b] μόλις [/ b] κέρδισε. εσείς
καταλάβουμε λίγα πράγματα για το blademasters όπως έχει
η τρίτη φορά που θα έχουν διορθωθεί για το πολύ
λειτουργίες των δεξιοτήτων σας κατάφωρα θεωρούν ως προφανή
υποδείξεις της ευνοιοκρατίας.

Σας υποθέσεις του και η έλλειψη προσπάθειας για τη μεταφορά σας
σκέψεις που προκαλεί αυτά τα προβλήματα, όχι εγώ
παρανόηση, όπως είμαι τώρα το 4ο άτομο να διορθώσει
σας.

This post has been edited by SmileForMe: Nov 27, 2011 - 8:53 PM

[BLöDSKääL]

Summon swords is awesome, if u atk someone thats not in range, or not paying attention to you... but against a melee that will get up in ur face, its usually putting you in disadvantage. BMs have another skill that makes them atk everything around them, drawing agro, that will get you killed as well...

[Lithia]

I believe I was very clear on what I said.
I removed all the posts that continued on that topic after the one I made where I stated I wanted nothing more of this.

If you people have stuff to say to one another, take it private. Don't bother the other users with this!

Now get this thread back on rails, or so help me god I will lock it.


- Lith. ...Threat.

[SmileForMe]

 Lithia, on Nov 28, 2011 - 8:28 AM, said:

I believe I was very clear on what I said.
I removed all the posts that continued on that topic after the one I made where I stated I wanted nothing more of this.

If you people have stuff to say to one another, take it private. Don't bother the other users with this!

Now get this thread back on rails, or so help me god I will lock it.


- Lith. ...Threat.

Er I believe my post was concerning summoning swords but I'm glad you took care of the rest.

[xShin]

To me, Summon Swords seems like it's mainly for additional DPS in the form of DOT, or as a last-resort form of protection (if both parties are at extremely low health, the opponent would die if he/she does not maintain his/her distance because of Summon Swords). It is nice though that it does continue attacking regardless of the state of its caster/user. However, as another user stated, it appears to mainly be a support skill and not necessarily someone upon which one can base his/her entire build/style. I will probably still try out a BM, but it is primarily because of this that I'm leaning towards Assassin right now.

On a side note: In the video, it seemed the Sin's counters caused him/her to go behind the magic attack instead of the caster? I initially thought that counter would move the Sin behind the caster as opposed to just moving him/her behind the magic attack that has now passed him/her. Can anyone else confirm this?

EDIT: On the other hand, it seems the Sin's counter moved him/her right behind the BM even though the BM was attacking the Sin from a distance using Summon Swords.

This post has been edited by xShin: Feb 21, 2012 - 8:47 PM