[ullysis]

I just saw a video called "naughty Assassin" Where the level 37 sin named RED () just stealthed his/her way through an entire dungeon and opened the boss' loot box took all the loot and then just stealthed back out. Now, i know bloodlust will not enable mobs and bosses to see players in stealth mode as it'll just kill an entire class but does anyone else see this as an issue or am I making a deal of nothing? I see, either 70% of players selecting to play assassin for this reason (seeing as it's 1 of the core reasons you play anyways...to get loot and increase your toon's abilities) or everyone having a sin alt.

I've only ever played 3 MMOs (WoW - 3yrs; AION 1yr; AOC - 3months) so there are probably people who have played many more than I, therefore, I'm hoping to be enlightened if this is as intended or a flaw in the game.

This post has been edited by ullysis: Sep 06, 2011 - 7:23 AM

[Dosferai]

My guess is that there will be a hotfix for this, where players wont be able to interact with the loot box unless the boss guarding it is dead.

If not, well, it will be kinda retarded.

[DarkWish]

Make box appear after all mobs and or boss is dead, problem solved.

[CosMos]

definentaly will be fixed :o
experianced a few games of ncsoft they never allowed cheating on lootboxes or similar

[Rusty]

If that is indeed true, the 'Assassin' class will be most likely nerfed if it gets too much attention and hate because it'll be the most OP class in B&S.
I myself was going to be an Assassin, but knowing that Lyn's will most likely not have the option to be an assassin I chose to be something else a blademaster, if even the 'Blademaster' class won't be available then I'm going to become a caster for the first time in my MMO gaming life.
Truth be told Assassins have always been the 'cool' kinda class, that's why it always got the most attention from people who tend to try to look cool in virtual worlds and... I like waffles.

nuff' said



I know I went totally off-topic, it is most likely because I'm high.

Kids, don't do drugs.

This post has been edited by Rusty: Sep 06, 2011 - 6:26 AM

[ullysis]

Phew! Good to know it wasn't just me getting high "Rusty", just kidding ... I'm just glad I'm not the only one who felt this was a problem especially since everything seem so fantastic and well thought out about the game, i'd hate something this important be overlooked.

[Shikotsumyaku]

ullysis, on Sep 06, 2011 - 6:13 AM, said:

I just saw a video called "naughty Assassin" Where the level 37 sin named RED just stealthed his/her way through an entire dungeon and opened the boss' loot box took all the loot and then just stealthed back out. Now, i know bloodlust will not enable mobs and bosses to see players in stealth mode as it'll just kill an entire class but does anyone else see this as an issue or am I making a deal of nothing? I see, either 70% of players selecting to play assassin for this reason (seeing as it's 1 of the core reasons you play anyways...to get loot and increase your toon's abilities) or everyone having a sin alt.

I've only ever played 3 MMOs (WoW - 3yrs; AION 1yr; AOC - 3months) so there are probably people who have played many more than I, therefore, I'm hoping to be enlightened if this is as intended or a flaw in the game.

Is there a rule stating your can't post the link? Regardless this is indeed nothing to worry about, oversights such as this are expected in a Beta and it will get sorted.

[Yox]

Pfft, that'll be fixed soon enough, but anyways I intended to become an assassin before hand, but it looks rather lame and disappointing to me in my honest opinion. So I'll most likely main with KFM/BM they seem to have better combos..

[Valadhiel]

I certainly hope those in beta report such an exploit. *arches an eyebrow at the beta testers in the room*

[Kiban]

ullysis, on Sep 06, 2011 - 6:13 AM, said:

I just saw a video called "naughty Assassin" Where the level 37 sin named RED just stealthed his/her way through an entire dungeon and opened the boss' loot box took all the loot and then just stealthed back out. Now, i know bloodlust will not enable mobs and bosses to see players in stealth mode as it'll just kill an entire class but does anyone else see this as an issue or am I making a deal of nothing? I see, either 70% of players selecting to play assassin for this reason (seeing as it's 1 of the core reasons you play anyways...to get loot and increase your toon's abilities) or everyone having a sin alt.

I've only ever played 3 MMOs (WoW - 3yrs; AION 1yr; AOC - 3months) so there are probably people who have played many more than I, therefore, I'm hoping to be enlightened if this is as intended or a flaw in the game.

Sry, can you post link that Video ?

[AfterNightDasher]

Experience from many mmos.Assassins/Rogues always are op at the beginning then they nerf them to the the ground and at the end you can just cry and shit on the forums ho UP you are.That is why i will not play Sins this time.

[CrazyJam]

sins suck, KFM all tha way

[Dosferai]

Now that you posted the vid, its not just the assassin.

Almost everyone can do this. The only difference is that other classes would have to fight some mobs, but no1 needs to fight the boss.

[Shinaji]

Well all they'll have to do is make the box appear after the boss has died, or closed until it dies. No need to touch the class. Haha.

[Kerberian Kitsune]

Agreed, on the box to spawn after all mobs have been cleared out vote. Though... yo' have gotta question the viability of 'training' mobs for those classes rendered unable to be sneaky-ass all the time - haha, made a rather pathetic half-funny there along the way. Would they really be truly able to create the same effect when there's no monk-style feign death as per in more traditional MMOs? In my experience you'd need strong CC to top or rather be on equal terms with a stealther; and even then in a fair number of MMOs, mobs tend to be immune to those kinds of hard CC. I really don't see what's wrong with prescribing the alternate solution of elite mobs being able to see through stealth, end of... it wouldn't wreck the class THAT much to not be able to touch (during a state of being hidden) what is supposed to be a full party difficulty mob, or would it?

[Zan]

I had a big ol' post with multiple solutions to the problem, but then I realized that a determined party could still lure the boss away from the chest while a select person opens it unmolested.

You could also make the boss drop a key that opens the chest and kicks off the loot process. I think I like the "just make the chest inaccessible until the boss dies" solution - the Majordomo Executus solution.

I get that it's kind of weird for a dragon to die and suddenly drop a bag full of gear for its human killers, but it sure is getting a lot more mechanically complicated to include a chest in the room.

[Masataka]

didn't maange to see the video..d'amn

AfterNightDasher, on Sep 06, 2011 - 7:10 AM, said:

Experience from many mmos.Assassins/Rogues always are op at the beginning then they nerf them to the the ground and at the end you can just cry and shit on the forums ho UP you are.That is why i will not play Sins this time.

dagger class in Lineage2 is no weak or nerfed to the ground at all.its the opposite.they are OP as hell.they do lethal(no matter how much CP & HP you have it lets you with 1HP with lethal)all the time,and with all that crit dmg items & buffs they have added & their skills upgraded to +30,a geared Treasure Hunter for example hits more than 5k(i've seen 12k dmg inside Olympiad)and his skills have around 1-3sec CD

This post has been edited by Masataka: Sep 06, 2011 - 12:18 PM

[GRVV]

Playing in KFM, lv.33.


Most of assassin said low damage is their weak point.
And they think about debuff, skill and dodging more than dealing.

Of course, I didn't play assassin, so it's not all assassins opinion.

[futilepath]

first post after signing up, but since I am playing CBT 2 as well, I might as well help clear stuff up.

Assassins may have their stealth, and their surprise attacks combined with traps, but they one of the squishiest classes in BnS. Second only to Force Masters. I haven't leveled a sin much so I cannot go into details, but from what I can read out of the official website's forums, lot of Korean players that rolled assassin are complaining about a nerf in damage. That's right, the sin class looks cool and ninja-like, but they suffer in damage. Guess they make up for that with their stealth and fast attack speed.

going off topic~ each race is only limited to certain classes. Whether BnS will change this or not will be for them to decide.

here is the breakdown:

Jin - Blade Master, Assassin, and Kung Fu Master
Gon - Kung Fu Master, and Destroyer
Rin/Lyn - Force Master
Gun/Kun - Blade Master, Force Master

there are no special racial traits for each race either like Tera Online. So what race and what class you go is purely based on your personal preference.

This post has been edited by futilepath: Sep 06, 2011 - 3:48 PM

[Lyndis]

Yeah there will definitely be a hotfix coming for this. And check out the official CBT2 video thread if you want to see the real video. Its one of the latest ones posted.

No class should have the ability to skip a whole dungeon and gain the rewards for free.