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Posted Jan 22, 2013 - 8:11 AM

Hey all. I've read a lot about the game, and understand that the game has relatively high end graphics for an MMO. Youtube videos, however, tend to be "nerfed" and don't truly show the quality of the game, even in 1080p. So I was wondering if anyone who's played it could tell me how good they really are? How do they compare to soemthing like Guild Wars 2?

I understand graphics isn't everything, I'm simply curious ^.^
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Posted Jan 22, 2013 - 8:21 AM

100x better than Guild Wars.
And no the maxed graphics are the same in trailers and in gameplay.
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Posted Jan 22, 2013 - 12:03 PM

Effects wise, GW2 has far better effects than B&S.
Texture wise it's about the same.
The only real difference comes down to the art/style. They're completely different.
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Posted Jan 22, 2013 - 12:48 PM

Whatever you see in pictures is how B&S looks. Videos are lower quality.
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Posted Jan 22, 2013 - 12:54 PM

View PostTashigi, on Jan 22, 2013 - 12:03 PM, said:

Effects wise, GW2 has far better effects than B&S.
Texture wise it's about the same.
The only real difference comes down to the art/style. They're completely different.

I don't play gw2 on high graphics but b&s has far better graphics.
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Posted Jan 22, 2013 - 1:26 PM

You probably prefer the aesthetic/art better in B&S; but graphically, as the term is definined, GW2 has better graphical fidelity and far more attention to detail.
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Posted Jan 22, 2013 - 4:16 PM

BnS's models have some odd pixellation issues, from what I've seen. And some of the modeling on things like some of the Lyn ears are really wonky-looking and spiky when it's supposed to be fur. The physics on the clothes are also weirdly set up sometimes, like a dangly part of an outfit sticking to a leg and then suddenly just dropping downwards halfway through.

Otherwise, it looks pretty nice. The environments are pretty, the models need some anatomy work but that's because that's Hyung-Tae Kim's style. You end up getting some really messed up-looking bodies at angles, though, and you can end up with boobs you can stab people with on some outfits.
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Posted Jan 22, 2013 - 4:20 PM

I would have thought B&S had better graphics with it's attention to detail. For example the life like fur and the way the clothes move.
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Posted Jan 22, 2013 - 7:10 PM

Thanks for all the replies, it's great hearing that it is indeed a great looking game :D .
I'm eagerly awaiting the western release... I hope it comes during the first quarter
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Posted Jan 22, 2013 - 7:44 PM

View PostVile Samael, on Jan 22, 2013 - 4:16 PM, said:

BnS's models have some odd pixellation issues, from what I've seen.

That has to do with the game not supporting AA natively.
It can be forced in, though. Upon forcing in AA, all of that jagginess and pixelation goes away :3
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Posted Jan 22, 2013 - 9:03 PM

View PostTashigi, on Jan 22, 2013 - 7:44 PM, said:

That has to do with the game not supporting AA natively.
It can be forced in, though. Upon forcing in AA, all of that jagginess and pixelation goes away :3

Ah, that's pretty dumb :/'' Considering how heavily they're relying on aesthetics to draw in players, you figure they'd have that native instead of it being all gross until you fix it yourself.
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Posted Jan 22, 2013 - 9:48 PM

Yeah whatever, I'm just going to run this at 3200x1800 resolution with driver forced ambient occlusion and some SweetFX anyways. Like I do with every game.

It's going to look absurd. Kind of like TERA does now, really.
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Posted Jan 22, 2013 - 9:55 PM

Dun forget the sparkles around your monitor!
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Posted Jan 23, 2013 - 1:28 AM

View PostTashigi, on Jan 22, 2013 - 7:44 PM, said:

That has to do with the game not supporting AA natively.
It can be forced in, though. Upon forcing in AA, all of that jagginess and pixelation goes away :3


How come you say this? BnS has FXAA support in the options. You can simply activate it. There is nothing to do yourself like forcing it via drivers or injection.
I for myself think that BnS grafics are far superior to GW2. The Models in BnS are not as high resolution as they are in Tera tho.
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Posted Jan 23, 2013 - 1:41 AM

A quick search online will yield similar results to what I'm about to write. Keep in mind I am just a regular gamer like you or anyone else.
I don't spend more time than I have to on these things :3

FXAA is not the same as AA.
While FXAA is less taxing and sometimes faster than normal AA; it blurs more than it sharpens. So instead of seeing real AA, what you see with FXAA is "blur". This can also affect textures and have a negative impact on other details (Such as bluring textures/images).
But if you need something that can pass for an OK filter, personally, I'd inject MSAA instead of FXAA. MSAA is superior to FXAA IMO and even less taxing from past experience.
The downside to MSAA is that it can miss some edges.

However, true AA is the best as far as sharpening images/edges and removing jagginess goes.
But on the downside, it's the most resource consuming.
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Posted Jan 23, 2013 - 1:53 AM

I'll post this forever until everyone is educated!


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Posted Jan 23, 2013 - 2:28 AM

View PostTashigi, on Jan 23, 2013 - 1:41 AM, said:

A quick search online will yield similar results to what I'm about to write. Keep in mind I am just a regular gamer like you or anyone else.
I don't spend more time than I have to on these things :3

FXAA is not the same as AA.
While FXAA is less taxing and sometimes faster than normal AA; it blurs more than it sharpens. So instead of seeing real AA, what you see with FXAA is "blur". This can also affect textures and have a negative impact on other details (Such as bluring textures/images).
But if you need something that can pass for an OK filter, personally, I'd inject MSAA instead of FXAA. MSAA is superior to FXAA IMO and even less taxing from past experience.
The downside to MSAA is that it can miss some edges.

However, true AA is the best as far as sharpening images/edges and removing jagginess goes.
But on the downside, it's the most resource consuming.


Yea I know about that more or less (Nothing more then a gamer myself). As far as I know, FXAA just puts a filter on top of your picture rather then actually sharpening things. Wich is basicly blurring. However its still better then what BHS did in Tera with their "Light Enrichment".
Is there a way to force true AA with Nvidia Drivers rather then using FXAA? Ill have to test that out. In Tera I used a FXAA injector and it looked a lot better then anything I could achieve with the Teras options.
I heard of MSAA before, didnt know any real difference compared to FXAA apart from less resource consiming.
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Posted Jan 23, 2013 - 2:34 AM

TERA's graphical options are shit, to put it bluntly ^^
You have to edit almost everything yourself if you want to get the better out of it. Here's an old archived thread on a couple of things for TERA. They may/may not apply to B&S as well.
http://www.bladeands...aphical-tweaks/
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Posted Jan 23, 2013 - 4:14 AM

Guild Wars on high settings is a worthy match for B&S. Here's one screen to show character armor detail, and another to show envirenment (both in 1080p). B&S has better face options if you ask me and shinier clothes (everything on girls shines), but that's different art style of a different themed mmo.

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Posted Jan 23, 2013 - 4:22 AM

I have no idea how some of you can even compare B&S graphic to GW2. GW2 graphic look almost old as GW1. B&S is far superior to GW2, but still behind Tera.

From art style B&S can seems a bit absurd... but that why I do like this style.

View PostAari, on Jan 23, 2013 - 2:28 AM, said:

I heard of MSAA before, didnt know any real difference compared to FXAA apart from less resource consiming.


MSAA - same blur as FXAA. But FXAA is for Nvidia cards, while MSAA for AMD (Radeon).


Overall I hate how developers are lazy this days. Even games from 90's had true AA...
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