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In terms of the melee classes, which one is the clear victor? Which one has the advantage over the other class?

Jin blade master

Lyn blade master

Destroyer

Kung fu master

Assassin

Only the melee classes are what I am asking about!

So, experienced players of the Korean server, please give me an input!

I understand this game is very skill based but let's put into assumption that both players have the same skill level.

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In terms of the melee classes, which one is the clear victor? Which one has the advantage over the other class?

Jin blade master

Kun blade master

Destroyer

Kung fu master

Only the melee classes are what I am asking about!

So, experienced players of the Korean server, please give me an input!

I understand this game is very skill based but let's put into assumption that both players have the same skill level.

As I explained in the other thread, you probably mean Lyn, not Kun.

Kun BM and Jin BM are the same class.

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Assassin? Its a melee class dude... You might want to add it at least...

No class has an clear advantage over an other class

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Assassin? Its a melee class dude... You might want to add it at least...

No class has an clear advantage over an other class

Sorry, I added it too (was posting it on the phone, so I made many mistakes)

yeah I understand, I just wanted to hear your opinions/arguments for each class -

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I have no idea how is realy balance. But if this game supposed to have an group PvP so it should be like that:

Destro > KFM > BM > Assasin > FM=Sumoner

Why?

Destro is the slowest from all, supposed to destroy target and resist the most DMG. Character like this to be usefull in any group PvP should be the best in 1v1.

KFM - completly no range skills, no solid defence make this class easy target in group PvP. So it should be strong at other points, what usualy make classes like this strong in 1v1.

BM - range attacks, solid block. I belive it make this class strong at group PvP. It should not be too much powerfull in 1v1.

Assasin - stealth....

FM & summoner - range DPS...

My point is MMO should be balanced for group PvP, never 1v1.

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I have no idea how is realy balance. But if this game supposed to have an group PvP so it should be like that:

Destro > KFM > BM > Assasin > FM=Sumoner

Why?

Destro is the slowest from all, supposed to destroy target and resist the most DMG. Character like this to be usefull in any group PvP should be the best in 1v1.

KFM - completly no range skills, no solid defence make this class easy target in group PvP. So it should be strong at other points, what usualy make classes like this strong in 1v1.

BM - range attacks, solid block. I belive it make this class strong at group PvP. It should not be too much powerfull in 1v1.

Assasin - stealth....

FM & summoner - range DPS...

My point is MMO should be balanced for group PvP, never 1v1.

Except BNS is supposed to have 1v1 arena. And just because other games never did it doesn't mean it's impossible. And a special hint just for you, no healing class makes balancing easier by 10 folds.

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The same as 36 vs 36 BG and faction wars. And basically every MMO had duel option. Question is how seriously this 1 vs 1 are is taken by developers and content designers. My post is based on my expectations - And I expect MMORPG, not PvE theme park + duels area.

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The same as 36 vs 36 BG and faction wars. And basically every MMO had duel option. Question is how seriously this 1 vs 1 are is taken by developers and content designers. My post is based on my expectations - And I expect MMORPG, not PvE theme park + duels area.

But that is exactly what B&S is based on. Theme Park PvE and 1vs1 ranked arena. The 36 vs 36 is a gimmick for fun, not ranked and we don't know how the BG itself will actually look like.

The 1on1 is ranked and is what matters. Faction wars don't really exist in B&S, there simply is no reason for them.

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for 1vs1, the same other Situation

kung fu master>Assassin>Summoner>lyn master >force master>blade master>blade master>destroyer

for group pvp,

lynmaster & force master is the best.

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for 1vs1, the same other Situation

kung fu master>Assassin>Summoner>lyn master >force master>blade master>blade master>destroyer

for group pvp,

lynmaster & force master is the best.

That's completely incorrect based on my experience Destroyers skill kit is pretty disgustingly broken in pvp in 1v1 or group and with good ping they're probably the strongest pvp class with the raw defensive ability and offence alike that they possess and Assasin being number 2 is very iffy considering they're extremely gear dependant and lose some match ups 1v1 nearly by default it seems but thats just my opinion after playing Assasin for a few weeks now and have average gear i'm not too impressed but on the same hand I see some koreans with maxed gear 3 shotting people so I guess time will tell.

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for 1vs1, the same other Situation

kung fu master>Assassin>Summoner>lyn master >force master>blade master>blade master>destroyer

for group pvp,

lynmaster & force master is the best.

That is wrong on so many levels.

As mentioned before by me and the guy above me. Destroyer is by far the strongest class. Assassins on the second spot is more or less correct. A LBM might be better now.

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Why destro? For me it seems as slow class. Easy to kite in 1v1 and on group PvP easy to swarm.

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Why destro? For me it seems as slow class. Easy to kite in 1v1 and on group PvP easy to swarm.

the Tab key.

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I am not too familiar with the current BnS metagame, but I do recall Destros having a significant 1v1 advantage over KFM's earlier on, so much so that they recieved a buff. Other then that i cannot say, I think the assassin may the highest number of favorable matchups, but It also seems to me they require the most skill to play maybe with exception of a KFM.

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hm lvl45's (not arina) the destro was in the air all the time by the bm and he won 1 out of 5 or 6 hears the link

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The destro is gonna win even harder then in this video now. Max HP is way higher and the Black Gem is out. BM will stand no chance to kill a destro.

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The destro is gonna win even harder then in this video now. Max HP is way higher and the Black Gem is out. BM will stand no chance to kill a destro.

Forgive the noob question, but what's a black gem? I'd asked in the PvP section about the gear vs. skill ratio but this sounds pretty gear-based. =/

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The Black gem is a PvP gem that can be bought once you reach, I believe Gold Ranking. This gem heals for 150 in each hit taken. (EACH FREAKING HIT!)

It also has a 3 AP increase (I think it was a procc tho, need to check)

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The Black gem is a PvP gem that can be bought once you reach, I believe Gold Ranking. This gem heals for 150 in each hit taken. (EACH FREAKING HIT!)

It also has a 3 AP increase (I think it was a procc tho, need to check)

Urgh. Is Gold ranking hard to reach? (Appreciate all the detailed info by the way!)

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i think its changed to 70 now, the 150 one no longer works, so now i have to buy a new one for 5000 beans -_-

Gold ranking is 1600, you start out at 1300, so I guess its a little above average, but not that impressive. If you're not from Korea, it is kind of hard to get to 1600.

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i think its changed to 70 now, the 150 one no longer works, so now i have to buy a new one for 5000 beans -_-

Gold ranking is 1600, you start out at 1300, so I guess its a little above average, but not that impressive. If you're not from Korea, it is kind of hard to get to 1600.

Yeah, I was more thinking of when western release is here. I really, REALLY hope they keep stat advantages minimal, and keep the skill factor in (autoblock, autoparry, autostun etc. are all awful ideas imo.)

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Except BNS is supposed to have 1v1 arena. And just because other games never did it doesn't mean it's impossible. And a special hint just for you, no healing class makes balancing easier by 10 folds.

don't be so sure that other games never did it.Lineage 2 has 1v1 coliseum matches to become hero for a loooooooooong time(i forgot how many years this game is out).Aion also has 1v1 arena

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My point is MMO should be balanced for group PvP, never 1v1.

I think if you balance MMO for 1v1, that MMO will be also balanced for group pvp. But if you balance MMO just for group pvp, then it doesn't mean it will be balanced for 1v1 also. And then there will start problems. Because not every player like group pvp. And if you are player like me, who is from 90% solo pvp player that play class what he like and not what class is best. Then you have a rly bad times in game sometimes. For example now, while waiting for BnS, i am playing Aion, gladiator class. It is nice class, good for group pvp, but as I said, I am solo player and I play that class what I like. And Aion is tooo much unbalanced for gladiator in 1v1 now days :/ That is the reason why I am stopping playing that game. So that is the reason why I think MMO should be balanced for 1v1 and also for group pvp. I think there is lots of players like me out there, that likes solo pvping, not only 1v1 but also 1 vs groups :D Trust me, there is no better feeling than if you alone defeat group of enemies <3 <3 <3 <3 And players like me can't enjoy game if their class is the most bad in the game, the have huge disadvantage against other classes, and they don't like group pvp so much.

But I am rly optimistic in BnS case, because from what i saw in streams and vids, it looks like this is finnaly MMO that is rly based on player skill, reactions, tactics and knowledge of whole game :)

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i'll try out those classes that i might want to play when eu version comes out.

currently testing BM, seems to be very weak in pvp untill now since his main defensive skill sucks in 1vs1 and will probably be even worse in 3vs3 environment. after that i'll most likely test assassin. from what i've seen so far one of the best, if not The best class for 1vs1 and 3vs3 and is definately #1 for faction pvp.

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